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Discussions - Public / Re: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Review
« Last post by benali72 on February 08, 2017, 07:41:29 PM »
Thanks for the update, ilconsiglliere.  Interesting to hear what you learned.

As far as Word and Excel compatibility go, I use LibreOffice 100% -- and I trade files with Windows users. I don't have any problems.

But I should mention the folks I interact with still use .doc and .xls formats. I don't have much experience trading files in the newer formats with Win users to report.

Funny, all these years since MS introduced the newer file formats in Office 2007, and much of the business world still operates with the old formats for compatiblity between diffedrent business entities. Go figure.
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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Good hardcore IT job stats -- for the UK
« Last post by benali72 on February 08, 2017, 07:15:21 PM »
Good hardcore IT job stats with excellent drill-down detail -- unfortunately for the UK   

see http://www.itjobswatch.co.uk/
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Discussions - Public / Re: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Review
« Last post by ilconsiglliere on February 08, 2017, 08:57:54 AM »
Thanks I might do this. Windows 10 is basically unusable due to the constant updates, the crapware, etc, all making it so sluggish as to be unusable for 3-4 hrs after I boot it up each time.

I'm never sure if the various Linuxes will work on any Windows machine or not. Sometimes it'll sort of work, but only if you spend lots of time with weird configuration settings in the bios or whatnot.

Ubuntu is publishing lists now of hardware that they know will cause no problems. Check it out:

https://certification.ubuntu.com/

http://lifehacker.com/find-the-perfect-linux-compatible-pc-with-ubuntus-hardw-1720393475
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Discussions - Public / Re: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Review
« Last post by ilconsiglliere on February 08, 2017, 08:54:57 AM »
Something thats nice is its LTS (long term support) which means it will be supported for 5 years. It works pretty quick as I only have 4GB of RAM. In the past the wireless and video drives could be a hassle. Not this time, it picked everything up out of the box. I didnt do jack.

The only thing I did before I started I shrank the Windows partition. Typical to shrink a Windows partition in Windows is a huge ordeal so I used something called Gparted. I put it on a stick - its Linux with a utility to shrink the partition. The utility supports all these different file systems:

btrfs
ext2 / ext3 / ext4
fat16 / fat32
hfs / hfs+
linux-swap
lvm2 pv
nilfs2
ntfs
reiserfs / reiser4
ufs
xfs

It took all of 5 minutes to cut my windows partition in half. Than you reboot, Windows runs a check and you are done. Contrast that to Windows itself or any of the utilities you buy. If you do it Windows, windows cries about unmovable files and other crap. Not sure what the big deal is but after I did it, I rebooted it and played with it and it was fine.

Than I installed Ubuntu in the remaining space and used the Logical Volume Manager so I can expand/shrink partitions as I want.

The one thing I can say is its incredibly flexible. Dont like the way it looks? It can be changed to look like Windows or a Mac. The standard interface is very usable and the learning curve is not that steep.

I tried Fedora for a few weeks but the stock Gnome 3 interface drove me crazy. Example it didnt have minimize/maximize buttons by default. So you had to turn them on. I just didnt care for the way it worked. So instead of spending huge amounts of time getting it to work I decided to try Ubuntu. It works GREAT.

You can install software from the command line or through the software store. I already installed some tools to tweak it as I like, Opera and some other things. Opera is very quick as well.

Give it a shot, its a great Windows replacement. I have not used Libre much yet but will let you all know. In the past some of these open sources MS Office replacements were flaky. We shall see. That is a reason I kept my Windows partition. Truth being I dont use MS Office that much at home - about the only thing is to write my resume. I started using Google's spreadsheet for the house so I am off of that too.

My goal is to cut my self loose from Microsofts hang knot (and Apple too for that matter). I think this might be a way to do it. Give it a shot as its free.
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Discussions - Public / Re: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Review
« Last post by pxsant on February 08, 2017, 08:14:21 AM »
I occasionally use Ubuntu, which I've installed in a VirtualBox virtual machine.  I see that I'm woefully out of date with my release, being 12.04 LTS.  It used to be mainly for learning software when I was working in IT.

I spend a lot of time in Word, which for me is the killer app bar none (along with Chrome and occasionally Excel).  I've never used any OpenOffice types of alternatives to Microsoft office, and I'd have to convince myself that they are as good as Word and Excel before I would regularly use Linux.

You can actually run Microsoft Office including Word, Excel etc on Linux using a product called Crossover Linux.  This is a compatibility layer built on top of Wine.  You can read up on it here and see what software runs using Crossover.

https://www.codeweavers.com/products/crossover-linux
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Discussions - Public / Re: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Review
« Last post by Code Refugee on February 08, 2017, 08:10:28 AM »
Thanks I might do this. Windows 10 is basically unusable due to the constant updates, the crapware, etc, all making it so sluggish as to be unusable for 3-4 hrs after I boot it up each time.

I'm never sure if the various Linuxes will work on any Windows machine or not. Sometimes it'll sort of work, but only if you spend lots of time with weird configuration settings in the bios or whatnot.
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Discussions - Public / Re: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Review
« Last post by I D Shukhov on February 08, 2017, 08:01:50 AM »
I occasionally use Ubuntu, which I've installed in a VirtualBox virtual machine.  I see that I'm woefully out of date with my release, being 12.04 LTS.  It used to be mainly for learning software when I was working in IT.

I spend a lot of time in Word, which for me is the killer app bar none (along with Chrome and occasionally Excel).  I've never used any OpenOffice types of alternatives to Microsoft office, and I'd have to convince myself that they are as good as Word and Excel before I would regularly use Linux.

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Discussions - Public / Re: Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Review
« Last post by The Gorn on February 08, 2017, 07:09:00 AM »
... also under consideration for that wheezy old Pavilion laptop I posted about. Thanks for the review.
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Discussions - Public / Ubuntu 16.04 LTS Review
« Last post by ilconsiglliere on February 08, 2017, 07:03:14 AM »
I am seriously fed up with Windows so on a whim I installed Unbuntu 16.04 (Long term support) along side Windows 7 in my laptop. I have to say it works GREAT. It picked up all my hardware with no grief. Its an HP 8440P and is a few years old. The interface takes some getting used too but its not a big deal.

I have used Linux in the past but to get it to work smoothly was always a hassle. This one I had to do nothing. It came with Firefox pre-installed along with Libre Office. It all works out of the box. Everything I could ever do on the machine is easily done. And you can change the interface to be whatever you want it to be.

For those that have been avoiding it, its a great choice. Frankly I am sold on it.
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Discussions - Public / Re: Unteachable Ignorance
« Last post by unix on February 06, 2017, 03:44:01 PM »
are you sure it's a serious inquiry and not a joke?
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