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Discussions - Public / Re: How do you stop spam phonecalls?
« Last post by ilconsiglliere on September 14, 2017, 01:50:34 AM »
I had an iPhone 4 up until this summer so dont feel bad. It still works even now. The only reason I stopped using it as I could not install anything and the OS could not be upgraded. It was retired in place. Went to a Samsung S7 Galaxy Edge, hated it and went back to the iPhone. I have now have an iPhone 7. If I get 4 years out of it I will be happy.

As for the spam numbers there really is nothing you can do. Generally speaking if you are not in my contacts I wont answer the phone. On an iPhone one tap of the power button silences the phone, two taps send it right to voice mail.

I have found something that seems to help. I answer the phone but dont talk and put it on speaker and mute. Than I just leave the line open. Computers hang up eventually and users just go hello, hello, hello. Some go nuts. I just leave em hanging till they hang up.

I have noticed that if you do this enough and they remove you from their dial patterns as you are tying up the line.
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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: AI and Robotics: new opportunity areas?
« Last post by JoFrance on September 12, 2017, 03:10:27 PM »
Japan is doing a lot of interesting work with humanoids that will become care givers to their older population.  I sure wouldn't mind having a robot around the house when I'm too old to do a lot of things.

https://www.cbsnews.com/videos/cbsn-on-assignment-explores-japans-future-of-humanoid-robots/

There is a definite need for this technology in Japan and also, as the Boomer generation gets older, we will have the same need here.

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Discussions - Public / Re: How do you stop spam phonecalls?
« Last post by JoFrance on September 12, 2017, 02:47:33 PM »
Geez, its frustrating that there really is no good solution.  I've gotten occasional spam texts, but its nothing like the phone calls.  I don't think personal phone calls will ever go away.  I know I can burn up the phone lines talking to my friends and family.

I'm going to look into Mr. Number.  If I can block most out of state numbers it would be a help.
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Discussions - Public / Re: How do you stop spam phonecalls?
« Last post by benali72 on September 12, 2017, 02:39:01 PM »
Indeed, the old system of telephone and POTS phone numbers are now almost completely devoid of trust.

Excellent summary of the problem. 

I have quite a few friends who don't even answer their phones anymore.

If you want to talk with them, you have to leave a message, and they call you back.

(of course, that's assuming you will answer when they call you back! otherwise you get an endless loop of phone messages!)
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Discussions - Public / Re: How do you stop spam phonecalls?
« Last post by The Gorn on September 12, 2017, 08:15:32 AM »
Phone calls are obsolete. I need to get a text only device.   

Communicating with many people, you want the stuff *in writing*.  Text and email constitutes it *in writing* and whatever is said on the phone is vapor and has never been said.

Indeed, the old system of telephone and POTS phone numbers are now almost completely devoid of trust. A caller ID has no meaning today. POTS phone numbers are probably going to go the way of FAX in a few years.
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Discussions - Public / Re: How do you stop spam phonecalls?
« Last post by unix on September 12, 2017, 05:53:33 AM »

I use this app called Mr. Number, it works but it does block legitimate calls, and yeah, they spoof legitimate numbers.

I don't answer the phone if it's not in one my contacts or something I recognize.

I don't like to talk on the phone, either email or text works much better. I am either driving or in the office when I cannot talk.

My voice mail got full and I forgot the password and haven't cared to reset it.  If I do talk on the phone, I usually need to write something down. Which I usually cannot if I am driving, or if I do, I lose it. So I need a record via email or text I can come back to when I need it.

Phone calls are obsolete. I need to get a text only device.   

Communicating with many people, you want the stuff *in writing*.  Text and email constitutes it *in writing* and whatever is said on the phone is vapor and has never been said.


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Discussions - Public / Re: How do you stop spam phonecalls?
« Last post by The Gorn on September 11, 2017, 06:09:58 PM »
Here's the problem that has emerged with spam calls:

The callers now spoof legitimate phone numbers, down to your local three digit exchange. So there is virtually no possible defense against spam calls. If you block these numbers you may inadvertently block legitimate callers.

For example, the other day I received a call with the caller ID showing up as KROGER (grocery chain) and the commonly seen three digit exchange. It was one of those G()(*& D(*&(*&   --- "Why hello. Our records show that you stayed at one of our resorts...".

Commercial dialing systems used by telemarketers (such as "predictive calling" systems) have a means to spoof the origination, but do so legitimately with the source number's consent. A few years ago a guy I hired to try telemarketing for me did this. His system first made a test call to my number that would show up to called parties, and I had to press a digit to OK it and give my consent. Once I OKd it, he could make calls on my behalf with his system.

The current scam practice seems to be to use software that lets telemarketers plug in any number with no validation.
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Discussions - Public / How do you stop spam phonecalls?
« Last post by JoFrance on September 11, 2017, 03:35:24 PM »
I have an IPhone 4S.  Okay, I know its old, but even though I can block the spam calls its a game of whack a mole.  Does anyone out there have a solution that is better than the standard stuff offered by Apple?  I read about Truecaller that is community based, but don't know if its any good.

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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: AI and Robotics: new opportunity areas?
« Last post by benali72 on September 11, 2017, 03:33:04 PM »
I worked with expert system software years ago on a project. It was great for that particular application, which would have been very hard to program otherwise. But it only addresses a certain set of problems -- the need for expertise where the domain is known and the rules can be precisely expressed.

I think JoFrance has an interesting idea that AI may be at long last bursting out of its previous limitations. I guess we'll see over the next 5 or 10 years.
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Discussions - Public / Re: So I jumped on the 4K bandwagon
« Last post by unix on September 08, 2017, 05:08:52 PM »

You never want to go back  to anything under 4K once you have 4K. Netflix automatically upgrades you to 4K if they detect your HDTV.

I've never seen Game of Thrones, don't get the whole genre.  I cannot keep up even with 5% of Netflix.
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