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Loco Stories / Humor / Re: Carole King's Wasn't Born to Follow
« Last post by JoFrance on October 10, 2017, 05:41:38 PM »
I'm going with the Byrd's version of that song, even though Carole King wrote it.  They really personified the song in Easy Rider.  I saw some parts of that movie a couple of months ago and can't imagine why I watched it in the first place way back when.
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Discussions - Public / Re: The Las Vegas shooter: a suicidal sociopath
« Last post by JoFrance on October 10, 2017, 05:22:10 PM »
I'm starting to think this guy was a spook.  The misinformation by law enforcement about the timeline is disturbing.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2017/10/09/holy-cow-the-official-mandalay-bay-massacre-narrative-just-completely-changed-latest-presser-video/
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Discussions - Public / Re: An Interesting New Development on the 9-11 WTC Collapse
« Last post by unix on October 05, 2017, 08:28:39 AM »
I've always thought that WTC 7 was the strangest case of them all.
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Discussions - Public / Re: The Las Vegas shooter: a suicidal sociopath
« Last post by unix on October 05, 2017, 07:58:02 AM »
thanks for the link, it is very bizarre, strange, all of it.

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Discussions - Public / Re: An Interesting New Development on the 9-11 WTC Collapse
« Last post by The Gorn on October 04, 2017, 05:56:42 PM »
How soon before the CIA deals with this horrid disclosure of classified intel?

Ever since 9/11 part of the recurring folklore of the day's airliner attacks has been the assertion that the owner of tower 7 allegedly told someone to "pull" the building - "pull" apparently being a common term in the building demolition business to indicate to set off the explosive charges.

Personally I will always think that the buildings actually impacted fell far too quickly and neatly to be caused by an uncontrolled fire.
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Discussions - Public / An Interesting New Development on the 9-11 WTC Collapse
« Last post by ArnoldW2 on October 04, 2017, 05:50:32 PM »
Alaska University: Impossible That WTC Building 7 Collapsed By Small Fires As Claimed By NIST

The University of Alaska Fairbanks (UAF) was tasked with investigating how World Trade Center building 7      (WTC-7) fell on 9/11. The team found that WTC-7 did not fall due to fire, contradicting the NIST who said the building collapsed from structural damages due to the fire.

This article includes a video.

While the UAF team disqualified fire as a cause of collapse, they don’t yet know the real cause of the collapse, because their analysis is not finished yet.

50 seconds into the video, the speaker thanks the funders of the UAL study.  Listen to who funded it.

The speaker talks about the NIST analysis of the WTC-7 collapse, and two structure modeling mistakes the NIST made, until about 39 minutes into the video.  This part of the video is highly technical -- by an Engineer for Engineers.  Lay people won't understand it.

At about 52 minutes, the speaker shows a list of 7 structural possibilities considered by the UAF the team.  The NIST considered only two possibilities.

At about 57 minutes, there is an interesting Question and Answer session.

Comment by ArnoldW2:
At 22 + 1/2 minutes into the video, the speaker presents a video showing the collapse of WTC-7.  Although the collapses of WTC-1 and WTC-2 (the two tallest skyscrapers) did NOT resemble a controlled demolition, the collapse of WTC-7 most certainly did.  Important caveat:  Only the upper half of WTC-7 is visible in the video of its collapse. Without seeing the bottom half of the collapse, it is impossible to be certain that the collapse was controlled.

https://www.activistpost.com/2017/09/alaska-university-impossible-that-wtc-building-7-collapsed-by-small-fires-as-claimed-by-nist.html
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Loco Stories / Humor / Carole King's Wasn't Born to Follow
« Last post by I D Shukhov on October 04, 2017, 12:10:23 PM »
The Byrds'version we're familiar with:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/3hEfcawx6Fc" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/3hEfcawx6Fc</a>


Carole King's original:

<a href="http://www.youtube.com/v/568W3Nkq3DI" target="_blank" class="new_win">http://www.youtube.com/v/568W3Nkq3DI</a>

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Discussions - Public / Re: The Las Vegas shooter: a suicidal sociopath
« Last post by The Gorn on October 04, 2017, 11:28:11 AM »
I haven't watched much today.  I'm waiting for my nightly news fix.   :(   I just hope I don't have to see the brother spouting off again about how shocked he is about his wonderful brother.

That, plus the hospital bed interviews and the witness commentary... at this point the coverage is all redundant soap opera level emotional noise.
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Discussions - Public / Re: The Las Vegas shooter: a suicidal sociopath
« Last post by I D Shukhov on October 04, 2017, 11:26:41 AM »
I haven't watched much today.  I'm waiting for my nightly news fix.   :(   I just hope I don't have to see the brother spouting off again about how shocked he is about his wonderful brother.

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Yeah, right. What a load of absolute bullshit...

My first reaction when a family member is convicted of a mass killing is to state that I have a clean conscience. 

Because above all, I'm not shocked in the least. These things happen, after all. The first thing to pop into my head is to disclaim responsibility.

She probably owns a mansion in the Phillipines by now. Ok, I'm indulging my own probably wrong but nevertheless compelling theory.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/girlfriend-las-vegas-shooter-stephen-paddock-returns-u-s-article-1.3539817
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