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All of the wire between the two Zyxcel units is new copper, so yes, it is a long run but optimal in terms of materials. No old post wiring and no aluminum wiring (a plague from 1970s houses, I'm told.)

If the MOCA adapters are > $70 apiece I just think that's a bit high in light of how alternatives are priced. You need to buy one for each end, I surmise.  Unless that's a price for a pair.
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There's another really good solution that uses somewhat cheaper adapters: powerline ethernet.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0173CGWFY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought these last year when I was investigating having an antenna and a streaming TV device in our detached garage. The powerline adapters achieved at least 80 mb/s when I ran a testing program against them. And this is a detached garage with its own breaker panel with at least 80 feet of power line between the adapters.

The one downside of powerline ethernet is that the adapters depend on the juice from the socket they're plugged into which is also how they physically connect ethernet to the powerlines, and they won't work if you plug in them into a UPS because of the isolation of the signal. So they won't work when you lose power, whereas with your MOCA solution you could keep power going.

I was going to use the Powerline solution till I heard about Moca. I really didnt want to run wire no matter what. I am glad the Powerline adapters work great for you. I have read that in older houses or depending on how your house is wired you may have problems. Our house is about 110 years old and still has paired wire in some places (the original wiring). And has you said UPS and surge protectors can cause problems too.

The good thing is there are options if you dont want to run ethernet.
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There's another really good solution that uses somewhat cheaper adapters: powerline ethernet.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0173CGWFY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o07_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

I bought these last year when I was investigating having an antenna and a streaming TV device in our detached garage. The powerline adapters achieved at least 80 mb/s when I ran a testing program against them. And this is a detached garage with its own breaker panel with at least 80 feet of power line between the adapters.

The one downside of powerline ethernet is that the adapters depend on the juice from the socket they're plugged into which is also how they physically connect ethernet to the powerlines, and they won't work if you plug in them into a UPS because of the isolation of the signal. So they won't work when you lose power, whereas with your MOCA solution you could keep power going.
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Yes, for people with coax in a bunch of places, or at least in the places they want internet, I can see that this is a very good solution. Also, if one is thinking of running new ethernet cables, it might make more sense to run coax instead since it's way better shielded and faster and less error prone to terminate with a connector, plus you end up with cable connections all over the place so they do double duty.

A long time ago, I guess back in the late 80s, places I worked tended to have coax networking cables for connecting to central file servers. It wasn't until the 90s I started seeing 5 wire. Not sure how the older network stuff worked though. I remember our workstations would have a card with a coax input on it but I didn't know much about networking then, some other guy handled that stuff. I guess whatever that was back then wasn't MOCA as it seems to have been invented in 2004. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multimedia_over_Coax_Alliance) Well looks like it was 10BASE5 or 10BASE2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10BASE5, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10BASE2.
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We only have coax in tow of the bedrooms and the living room downstairs. In one of the bedrooms I put in Ethernet a long time ago for work. Running cable is a huge ordeal and do not really want to do it.

The beauty of this is anywhere you have coax in the house you now have ethernet. Like for our TV in the living room, we only have coax so if I used Roku or anything like that it had to be over the air. I had wanted to put it on ethernet for a while but the ordeal of running the wire has deterred me. Now thats not an issue any more.
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Cool, although it assumes that your entire house has every room upstairs and down prewired with individual coaxial network ports, presumably installed by the cable company.

I'm sure there are some people out there with cable outlets in every single room, but I've never met one of those people or seen a house with so extensive a cable wiring set up.

Typical cable install I've seen it is there's a cable outlet coming out in the living room, and possibly the master bedroom as well.

Do you guys know a lot of people that have more than this?
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Problem 1: If you stream anything over the air like games or movies you are subject to network latency. WiFi is just not as fast as a wired network. You get stuttering and pixelation at times.

Problem 2: You want Ethernet in a room but getting the wire there can be a huge ordeal. Many times you do have coax cable there already.

Solution: MOCA Networking.

http://www.mocainyourhouse.com/
http://www.mocalliance.org/index.htm



My friend at work told me about this after I mentioned that I wanted to put ethernet where we watch TV but it was going to be a huge ordeal running the wires. He said do you have a coax cable in the room? I said yes and he said you can use MOCA networking. He explained how it works.

Basically MOCA allows TCP/IP to run in an empty section of the bandwidth in a coax cable. Its a standard among the cable companies. Why its not advertised more is beyond me because its much faster than WiFi and as fast as ethernet.

The installation consists of buying a Moca adapter. Moca adapters have an Ethernet port in them. Verizon routers already have Moca built in and enabled so I only need to buy the Moca adapter in the room where I want the Ethernet. If your router does not have it built in you need to buy one that attached to the router and one for the end point. This is the Moca adapter I bought from Amazon:

https://www.amazon.com/Actiontec-Ethernet-Adapter-Service-ECB2500C/dp/B008C1JC4O/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1487595039&sr=1-2&keywords=moca+adapter

After you have the Moca adapter - you split the coax cable with a splitter. The Moca adapter has a built in splitter but per my reading its better to split the cable - one side goes to your cable box or TV and one side goes to the Moca box. Plug in the power cube and you have instant Ethernet network. The Moca adapter has an Ethernet port in it - you can connect a Roku, Ethernet switch, whatever... now that you have an Ethernet port in the room. 

I only bought one Moca adapter to try it out. Attached to the coax in our bedroom and it was totally painless. I did some speed tests on it and compared it the wired Ethernet in my home office. Its FAST, really FAST. As fast as Ethernet.

For the $72 for the adapter it solves a bunch of problems and is worth it. Here are my speed tests:





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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Have you ever seen a shop where H1B's are NOT abused?
« Last post by benali72 on February 19, 2017, 07:53:06 PM »
I read this article in which the author seems surprised that some companies abuse H1B's in the IT sector --
www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2017/02/the-dark-side-of-the-h-1b-program/516813/

That surprises me. Every single shop where I've worked with H1Bs, I've seen them abused in some manner. Either they make less money or they are treated worse than US employees in terms of work situation (eg, hours, being on-call, etc.)

In my experience, that's why companies hire them. To push them around in ways that are harder to do with American employees.

I'm curious about your experiences. Have you ever seen a site where H1B's have not been abused?

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FTE, Job and Career Discussion / Re: Good hardcore IT job stats -- for the UK
« Last post by unix on February 17, 2017, 04:57:40 PM »
I hear COL is abysmal there... So let's keep that in mind.
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Discussions - Public / Re: New Office Sensors Know When You Leave Your Desk
« Last post by The Gorn on February 17, 2017, 04:56:57 AM »
^ Huh huh, bigger pipe.  :P
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