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Light Changers
« on: October 28, 2003, 05:47:27 pm »

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Re: Light Changers
« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2003, 06:58:54 pm »
I'm trying to imagine what kind of a$$hole would buy one of these.

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Re: Light Changers
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2003, 12:07:59 am »
I think anyone with a vehicle that gets less than 10 mpg would buy one of these...or the usual impatient drivers in this town. Heh heh.. just imagining the Lincoln park trixies mounting it on their Jettas the WRONG WAY. ;)    (unknowingly leaving a trail of destruction)

Ah well...

In Chicago red lights mean 3 more cars are going to go through...

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Even though it was five years ago I still remember that a *BUS* stopped so I could cross the street in Vienna, Austria and this wasn't at a light!  Of course when I got home I was almost creamed by an SUV doing a "California turn" into a side street.


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Re: Light Changers
« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2003, 12:45:00 am »
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I'm trying to imagine what kind of a$$hole would buy one of these.
Maybe the same guy who knows that the lights are being manipulated to produce maximum traffic tickets and/or otherwise prove a political point which has nothing at all to do with the safe and expeditious movement of traffic.

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Re: Light Changers
« Reply #4 on: October 30, 2003, 09:30:48 am »
I've got three completely off the wall responses to this item.

First,  the "blue lights"  being used in Moscow to get through traffic.  It seems that thousands of Muscovites have bought the emergency blue flashing light that marks a priority vehicle.  This model attaches magentically to the roof of your car.  The outcome is predictable.  When everbody has priority, no one has priority.

Second,  in the town of Herndon,  Va.  they instituted a strange radar device to control speeders.  If the radar detects a speeding car,  it turns the next signal ahead to red,  and then lets it pick up the cycle from there.  That'll stop you.  As long as you stop at the light,  there's no ticket,  no warning,  no nothing.  The only people who speed there are those who don't know or don't care,  and those who also go through red lights.  

Third, in the book Hackers: Heroes of the Computer Revolution,  theres a vignette about one of these guys who always commuted down Memorial drive to get to MIT, in Cambridge Ma.  He noticed that the red lights seemed to perversely turn red at the wrong times.  So one night,  he stopped,  took one of the traffic lights apart, figured out how it worked,  and replaced the "wrong" algorithm with a "better" algorithm.  The only thing this guy couldn't figure out is why the officials weren't happy with him.  As far as he was concerned,  he had done his civic duty!

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Why do you assume that the traffic police are wrong?
« Reply #5 on: October 30, 2003, 11:01:32 am »
In my town, there is a corner without a traffic light where there seems to be at least one traffic accident a week.
At one point, the town even had the end of the street closed off so people wouldn't cross the intersection there.  That cut down the accidents to none, but people objected to not being able to cross through there.
You might think that we could rely on people to be careful at this intersection, because of this danger, but that doesn't seem to prevent these accidents.
Especially at busy times, I personally do not go through this intersection; instead, I try to pick a route with a traffic light.
A person with one of these devices is like a person who cuts in front of you in a line at the bank or super market - impolite, inconsiderate, and in this case, illegal.
Driving on public streets is a privilege, not a right.  Part of the terms of use is that you obey the traffic laws.

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These devices are evil!
« Reply #6 on: October 30, 2003, 11:36:29 am »
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A person with one of these devices is like a person who cuts in front of you in a line at the bank or super market - impolite, inconsiderate, and in this case, illegal.
Driving on public streets is a privilege, not a right. Part of the terms of use is that you obey the traffic laws.



Completely agreed. What about accidents that happen because the !@^* light slams to red from green? Drivers are not prepared for that.

Just because the law lags the part of the EM spectrum that is being used/abused, doesn't mean that this isn't improper behavior. For instance, pulling a fire alarm w/o a fire is illegal, even though the action itself is innocuous (pulling a handle). Likewise, you can't transmit the spoken word "mayday" on the radio spectrum, even though "May Day" itself is just a phrase describing a celebration.

However, what I think is REALLY stupid is that this protocol for triggering traffic lights is so easy to hack and is so public. It should be replaced immediately in all areas.
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