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Re: Contracting rates really stink
« Reply #15 on: June 29, 2010, 01:09:37 am »
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The CTO found his resume on Monster and by the end of the week he was no longer employed at the company.

That's just lame.

What if he's so excited about his job that he forgot to take it down? Or my policy of it never comes down?

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Re: Contracting rates really stink
« Reply #16 on: June 29, 2010, 08:44:39 am »

I never really considered that since I'm "always" available. Would a current employer really go looking for your online resume and go nuts if it was still up?
Some are incredibly paranoid and take it as a personal insult that an employee would even think about leaving.

It used to be quiet common for companies to run blind want ads and then see how many of their own employees would answer.   Those that did were flagged as "disloyal".   So it became SOP for employers who were really looking for help to add "Our employees know about this ad".   

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Re: Contracting rates really stink
« Reply #17 on: June 29, 2010, 11:45:16 am »
Ha, loyalty? That's probably one of the biggest reasons today to keep your resume posted.

I never liked blind ads. Two thoughts come to mind, what are they hiding and who is being canned.

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« Reply #18 on: June 29, 2010, 11:47:52 am »
A web site doesn't sound like a good idea for Unix. There may be complications to his current job.

I don't know what else would be a good idea for Unix to follow, either. All he wants to do is talk to borks about commodity contracts and do the corporate thing of looking for big company corporate work. That's not a bad thing, but you're going to be treated like one of 10,000 exact clones if you do that.
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Re: Contracting rates really stink
« Reply #19 on: June 29, 2010, 05:20:53 pm »
If that's the kind of work you're looking for then either finding it yourself or using a bork are my two thoughts.

A bork isn't all bad since they have connections with major corporations and can get you into a big company. The downside is like you stated plus they get a cut and rates currently suck through most borks.

In addition if the client doesn't care then you're also competing with many H1-B's that the bork probably has access to and are much cheaper than you.

So it's a good way to get big name corporate work but the pay isn't there.

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« Reply #20 on: July 04, 2010, 08:04:59 am »
I don't know what else would be a good idea for Unix to follow, either. All he wants to do is talk to borks about commodity contracts and do the corporate thing of looking for big company corporate work. That's not a bad thing, but you're going to be treated like one of 10,000 exact clones if you do that.

Unix, here's something to try, if you haven't already:

I seem to recall you're in the DC area.  Most major metro areas have some users groups, and they can be a good way to find work.

Join user groups from your specialty and related specialties, attend their meetings, and develop relationships with the people who attend.  If you talk to people in your field, and come off as reasonable, enthusiastic, and very competent, you leave a positive impression that may get you an opportunity when a job opening comes up. Make it clear when talking to people that you're open to new opportunities. Do not be negative about past experiences; at least, make sure that your image is mainly positive (because no one wants to work with a cranky guy; that is not how you want to be remembered).

My personal experience is that, while I never got a job this way, I did find that there are regular job announcements at these meetings. Some from recruiters, but some from actual hiring managers.  I also have the feeling that by talking to people in my field, and handing out my business card, I'm opening up myself to opportunities that I'd never see otherwise.

I'm totally terrible at networking, but this is the kind of thing that even I can do, so I think you should make an extended effort in this direction (i.e. attend meetings for a year, be sure to make contacts, and see what happens).

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Re: Contracting rates really stink
« Reply #21 on: July 04, 2010, 08:20:13 am »

Yeah, that's a great idea. Do you have any links for a group like that, in Maryland or Northern Virginia?

I hear NoVA has more work than MD.

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Re: Contracting rates really stink
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2010, 08:05:05 am »
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Do you have any links for a group like that, in Maryland or Northern Virginia

No I don't; I'm not in your area of expertise so I would not know the right group for you. You will have to research this, but it's very easy to do using a search engine.  One source is meetup, but those can be good and bad.  I'd look around for the largest, most popular group in my area, if I were you.

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« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2010, 10:25:06 am »
Also LinkedIn. Which has local IT and career related groups in every city of any size at all.
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Re: Contracting rates really stink
« Reply #24 on: July 07, 2010, 03:34:17 am »
I still find it interesting to follow the currents in the US IT scene, but as far as the Oz counterpart is concerned, the ones and zeroes turned to aces and eights about ten years ago.

You just get that special feeling of confidence knowing that Australian financial programming is being administered by Asok and ilk in the subcontinent.

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Re: Contracting rates really stink
« Reply #25 on: July 07, 2010, 06:17:03 pm »
Aussie wrote:
             "the ones and zeroes turned to aces and eights about ten years ago."

I love the reference to the dead-man's hand held by Wild Bill Hickok when he died.  So does that mean success in IT is akin to the Wild West days?  Don't play with your back to the door...

             "You just get that special feeling of confidence knowing that Australian financial programming is being administered by Asok and ilk in the subcontinent."

I heard a report on the radio today that the reason (supposedly) that California's state employees can't be bumped back to minimum wage rates during the budget impasse is that they would have to change all the state payroll computer programs.  Really?  What is this - Y2K? I'd send in a bid to Gov Arnold to fix the problem, but then I'd have to wait to get paid.  :P


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