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« on: February 15, 2010, 05:23:55 pm »
I am snowed in today and I experimented with doing a conversion of OpenIT to a private board format. I tried it with "Simple Machines Forum" or SMF. I know of several high volume discussion boards that are hosted with SMF.

Here is a sample of two sections from OpenIT that I converted. Note that user names are still a problem; every user in each post is a "guest".

http://www.it-proletariat.com/smf
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« Reply #1 on: February 15, 2010, 06:59:06 pm »
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I am snowed in today and I experimented with doing a conversion of OpenIT to a private board format. I tried it with "Simple Machines Forum" or SMF. I know of several high volume discussion boards that are hosted with SMF.

Here is a sample of two sections from OpenIT that I converted. Note that user names are still a problem; every user in each post is a "guest".

http://www.it-proletariat.com/smf
It looks great to me.


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« Reply #2 on: February 15, 2010, 07:31:34 pm »
I like it!

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« Reply #3 on: February 15, 2010, 07:36:36 pm »
Looks good but can you solve the user name problem?  Without user names a board is a paper weight.  You would never know who was posting or responding.

On a second look, I see that user ID's are shown.  You are just talking about the guest/member issue.   Not as big a deal.

I like the way threads are shown much better than EZBoard.
« Last Edit: February 15, 2010, 07:50:05 pm by pxsant »

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About user names...
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2010, 08:20:47 pm »
The conversion script that I am using will export the Yuku usernames of everyone, will create the same named users on the target board, and will also private message every user with an artificially created password using Yuku's PM box.

It does a lot of work. However, I am descending into Python hell because the script doesn't quite work and it's coded in Python.

If I leave it as is, basically nobody who posted can edit their old messages.
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Take a look now, guys
« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2010, 02:01:38 am »
I have been in contact with the creator of the conversion script. He fixed the problem this evening. I may Paypal him a donation.

Now all user names have been migrated. And you will note that post counts, join dates, and even avatars have made it across.

I'm not going to change anything before this next weekend. But we have a weiner!

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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2010, 06:52:00 am »
Hmm. It says my username (TRexx) doesn't exist.

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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2010, 09:35:52 am »
My password doesn't seem to work. (But you probably already knew that.)

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I think it looks promising. What about the admin side of this one?
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2010, 10:48:15 am »
Same here with password not working.  Have all passwords been reset to some default value perchance?

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Right now it's a working prototype - the new board is closed
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2010, 01:25:55 pm »
The new board is closed until I move everything over. The registration is closed, if you try that.

Yes, the script assigned everyone here a new password. (In fact, when I applied the script, I lost my own admin password and I had to hack it through MySql. )

There is also a separate script that PMs the new passwords through Yuku. So everyone now here who wants to claim their ID on the new board will first check their PM in box here to get their password.

I'll make a formal announcement and I will send out new passwords when the new board is ready to use.
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Admin and board features; threading
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2010, 01:27:30 pm »
Administration is much simpler than Yuku. Much less fussy. Much clearer and cleaner. I want to make certain that I understand the security features before I go live.

This new board will NOT be threaded where messages and replies are structured like a tree. All replies will go into a flat list.

I did some investigation and found that SMF is the most well regarded open source board, and there are no plans at this time to implement threading on it. The developers of SMF claim that threading reduces speed considerably.

Personally, after I thought about it awhile I realized that threading is overrated. For example, on this board, you have to continually refer to the tree view at the page bottom in order to understand who is replying to who. So in reading a thread, you can't really see the thread parentage unless you refer to another part of the page.

It is quite easy for users to handle the lack of threading. Just quote the message that you are replying to.

One admin feature of SMF that is really intriguing is the ability to split and paste message threads. So we can consolidate several threads into one as needed, or handle thread drift by splitting.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2010, 02:05:01 pm by G0ddard B0lt »
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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2010, 01:58:48 pm »
Quote from: TRexx
Hmm. It says my username (TRexx) doesn't exist.
You can find messages you wrote as follows:

Go to the Search menu.
Put a common word of over three letters, like "what", in the Search For box.
Put your user name in the By User box.
Check "Show results as messages" box.

As far as login:

I haven't distributed the new preassigned passwords yet. I won't until I have the new board online, including all security provisions set up.

But you had me curious, and I was just able to successfully log in as you using the concocted password.
« Last Edit: February 16, 2010, 02:05:32 pm by G0ddard B0lt »
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It's looking good
« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2010, 04:20:44 pm »
If we can split or splice messages then I think threading just becomes a 'nice to have' but not necessary.

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« Reply #14 on: February 16, 2010, 06:20:35 pm »
Looks like we're (GB is) committed to the move?
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